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  1. Bridget Cosgrove
    June 2, 2016 @ 2:38 pm

    Maybe he should think rather carefully as to who would really lose out. Britain and the British have had a good relationship with Spain, and Spain has benifited enormously. Seems to me the Spanish government have sometimes been rather too arragant in taking the British for granted. As the continued appalling state of the property market bears testament too.
    Prior to the crash 65% of all property transactions in Spain were with British. Now the British don’t trust or want to buy in Spain.
    Please don’t mess it up again Rajoy!

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    • john knight
      June 2, 2016 @ 11:28 pm

      Arrogant, not arragant. Government has been, not have. Benefited not benifited.
      The state of the property market has little to do with poor old Rajoy, more to do with Brits thinking that Spain is the same as UK, which it never was. (Apologies for the change of tense there).
      How does Spain benefit? Please don’t think that ex pats add greatly to the Spanish economy; we don’t.
      You need to consider the contribution to that economy by the likes of Santander, several of the world’s largest construction companies and Ferrovial (who own half of the UK’s airports.) These companies add billions of euros every day to the economy, our weekly shop at Mercadona is of very little significance. (Nearly forgot Zara, and Corte Ingles, the fourth largest department store chain in the world).
      Bridget, I’m truly sorry if you have suffered financial setbacks by being an ex pat, but believe me, if we leave the EU those setbacks will be exacerbated beyond our wildest nightmares.

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  2. Angela
    June 2, 2016 @ 3:58 pm

    I’ve said all along that if we leave, our rights in the rest of the EU would go back to where they were pre 92 in Spain. No jobs! Self employed with considerable investment only. It was a nightmare.

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  3. Ann Bonner
    June 2, 2016 @ 4:53 pm

    So for those of us Brits who live and pay tax here what does it mean?

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  4. Lisa
    June 2, 2016 @ 8:31 pm

    And apparently if we vote leave, a plague of locusts will arrive on the 24th June and we’ll. Get washed away by a typhoon! Spain would miss the British more. We have to protect our borders. We cannot keep taking over 300000 people in to our Country every year and the only way to stop that is to vote out. Sorry.

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  5. Liz Faulkner
    June 2, 2016 @ 10:12 pm

    Honestly I think the reverse is true. They want us there spending money which in many cases that is all they want. Weather wise many Brits go home July and August because it’s too hot. The winter nights are cold you need a fire or heating on. Wintering in the West Indies is a better option, so if we leave there will be many countries who will be very glad to have us visit them and spend our money there.

    The French call Britain treasure island.
    Think about that.
    The German prime minister wants to offload as many immigrants as she can on to us.
    Let’s get real, stop being scared of standing on our own two feet and Ho our our ancestors who put the great in Britain.

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  6. Andrew
    June 2, 2016 @ 10:26 pm

    Sorry but Rahoy who? Isn’t he some has been ex prime minister? I can’t imagine that he, who presided over one of the biggest corruption scandals in Spain’s history and who point blank refused to discuss it, will ever get to be prime minister again? So why anyone would want to listen to or take note of what he has to say, baffles me…

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  7. Chris Whewell
    June 2, 2016 @ 10:59 pm

    Rajoy must be quaking in his boots. 309k workers resident in Spain more than likely pay all of their tax and IVA because the authorities target them specifically. But there are probably double that who receive their pensions in Spain, and 700,000 times £108 (or so) is approximately 4.5 billion euros a year. And then add to that the millions of trips into the country by relatives and friends of those people, and of course, the money they spend.

    But the biggest nightmare in Rajoy’s nights must be the effect of 500,000 homes suddenly hitting the housing market and depressing the (already depressed) housing market and you have a recipe for disaster. Most of Spain’s banks hold a large portfolio of repossessed homes and foreclosed properties. Their borrowing is leveraged against the assets held. If those assets halved in value overnight, it leaves the Spanish banking system extremely over-exposed.

    Unemployment rose to its current levels when the housing bubble burst in 2008. Construction workers and associated jobs disappeared. And with close on one million homes in Spain that have NEVER been lived in, and the estimated 500,000 British-owned properties, those jobs, and any hope of a recovery of the economy would become distant. The light at the end of the tunnel would go out.

    Many of the Brits who fell in love with Spain now live here. Many more own holiday homes. And millions visit on package tours and such. Treat the ex-pats badly, and the entire house of cards could collapse. Treat them badly, and Spain’s economy could need a bailout that makes the Greek bailout look like pin money.

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  8. Carden
    June 3, 2016 @ 2:37 am

    More threats from our European ‘friends’. They really know how to encourage the British public in to voting to remain in. Of course a Brexit will be bad for everyone, all the more reason for them to do a bit of schmoozing.

    12 000 000 British tourists visit Spain each year. Maybe, they should let the head of tourism speak, instead of Rajoy.

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  9. Melissa
    June 3, 2016 @ 2:37 pm

    Interesting, I can´t wait to see what’s happening next!

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  10. Raymond Leddy
    June 5, 2016 @ 2:17 pm

    Every single one of the 10 respondents to that article, went all anti Rajoy, anti Spain, lets punish Spain, lets go else where, why doesn’t Spain be grateful etc etc, it’s shows the true lack of Europeanness in the Brit psyche. Rajoy wants a Brexit as much as he wants an independent Catalonia, what he was trying to get you to do was get out and vote to remain, while all the audience could do was bridle at being told the facts by a foreigner. You have to ask yourself if you are really European or do you still see yourself as a “cut above” the rest and therefore more deserving?

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  11. Amanda
    June 5, 2016 @ 4:09 pm

    Why can’t people understand that protecting U.K. Borders of immigrants by coming out of EU, will also mean that us expats will also by default become immigrants in the European countries we have chosen to live in, therefore we too could find ourselves having to return to UK, so whilst you may potentially stop the 300000 immigrants from taking up residency in UK you have a million or more uk citizens that could have to return home

    Britain can’t have its cake and eat it, you can’t expect to be able to stop immigrants in UK but axe pett to retain free rights in Europe at the same time – otherwise that’s one rule for one and one rule for another!!!

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  12. Heather
    June 7, 2016 @ 2:52 am

    Reasons to pu should stay.
    1. You will have to pay all your medical bills
    2. NHS will collapse if all the retires return to drain its services.
    3. Britian is not a world power those days are long gone. The colonies are not going to throw their arms open and welcome you back after you dumped them to join the EU. They spent years in recession after Britian joined the EU and dumped them and they fought long and hard to develop new trading partners. Now you will have to do the same. Europe will not be kind, Britian will have to find new trade partners and the rest of the world will be competing hard against you. Yes The Europeans don’t want the British to leave but it will hurt Britian more than them.
    4. When I hear you say things like Spain will be afraid of all the Brits leaving and selling their houses will ruin their economy. Most of the British still here have survived the recession so they either own their houses and have income or they have manageable mortgages and are probably working here. so the banks are not going to be to worried and yes their might be a glut of houses put on the market, but if you want to sell you will have to sell cheap.
    5. Getting visas. That will be expensive and time consuming, and yearly at best, plus you will have to travel to nearest embassy to get processed and pay for accommodation etc, never a fast process. Plus you will all have to apply to UK for new passports. More expense and long waits I expect.
    6. England’s economy will stall and I expect the pound to drop for minimum of 2 years while UK rushes round sorting out all the new trade agreements with all the non EU countries. Now you have not had to do that for a long time so you probably don’t have the government departments set up for that and it’s a very competitive world out there. Plus your old colonies will not let you muscle in on their trade blocks without a big corporate fight. They have been in the open market for years and are very experienced at it. The EU is required to buy within their block so if you are not EU and all the other countries in the world with the same goods you will be your competitors. Those countries and corporations will have already done studies on their new possibilities had are are gearing up for it.
    7. I keep hearing about British being bossed about by the EU. I want someone to tell me what are all these unfair things?…. Personally I think it’s all about immigration. Well there are a lot of hard working immigrants over there with businesses and paying their taxes. They will be in the same position. If they sell up and return to EU there will be lots of job losses in UK. It seems to me Britian has not taken many immigrants and over half of the immigrants you take are not from the EU. Look at the stats. You have an aging population, you need immigrants, So some get in illegally, it is up to you and your law makers to prevent this and have reasonable laws that do not allow people to get subsidised housing and all the things you say they are getting before the British poor. In my part of the world I hear all the same rhetoric and it is usually blowen all out of proportion by media and is not factual. I am very unhappy about unfair treatment of immigrants wherever they are. Most of them would prefer to live in their own countries but wars prevent them from being safe there, everyone deserves a fair go and an opportunity for a better life.

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  13. Peter Rumens
    June 8, 2016 @ 1:52 pm

    Heather …. Your point about immigrants seeking shelter from war and poverty in their own countries – Yes, a civilized society should not ignore people jumping from the windows, but far more constructive to put out the fire.

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